Beyond the Pond is a bi-weekly podcast in which Brian Brinkman (@sufferingjuke) and David Goldstein (@daveg924) use the music of Phish as a gateway to introduce the listener to many other bands, the vast majority of which are not jambands. An episode generally begins with a deep dive into a designated portion of Phish improvisation, and then can spin off to any variety of musical themes and other acts, the overarching purpose being introducing the listener to as many new and different bands as possible.

In this episode, we’re delighted to be joined by Steven Hyden (@Steven_Hyden); an excellent music writer and fellow podcaster to discuss his new book, Twilight Of The Gods: A Journey To The End of Classic Rock. This was a free flowing conversation that begins with Steve’s entry into the Phish universe before spinning out into a variety of rock and roll topics, some of which include Chris Robinson’s Grateful Dead cosplay, to the best Springsteen album of the 21st Century, to whether Arcade Fire’s downturn can be traced to an over reliance on the keytar, to whether anybody will remember just how incredible The White Stripes used to be when Jack White spends his hours nowadays cursing your cell phone usage. We also get into our favorite current and forthcoming albums of 2018, and much, much more. You’ll want to eat pie for this one, kids.

We appreciate you listening, and are certain that you will learn something new over the course of just under two hours. You can review and subscribe to Beyond the Pond on iTunes, or simply listen through the player below.

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